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Modern Anthro chart by Kayshae Modern Anthro chart by Kayshae
So here is a new chart for Modern-Anthro
I noticed in the comments for the previous one that the images weren't 'clear enough', I honestly didn't know if they could get any clearer than that, but I did understand I guess.
I personally disagreed with the percentages thing, because Anthro's technically are still animals.

Humans
Obviously not allowed as it is an Anthro group.

Kemonos
These are also not accepted in the group mainly because they are all in all still Humans, they just have the added animal ears, tail, etc.

Anthros
This part is kind of difficult for me to explain. But if you take a look at the images, you can see the obvious difference that isn't allowed in this group: The Snout.
Medium to Large length snouts are what is mainly judged when accepting Anthros in this group. This group likes to define Anthros with large snouts as 'Classic' Anthros, and ones with shorter or very subtle snouts as 'Modern'.

Please try and be understanding with the rules of this group. There are plenty of groups which accept Anthro characters of any type but this group is only looking for short snouted ones.

This is just the Basic Reference for telling the difference between the types.
(I'd like to keep the description quite short as most of the rules are here >> fav.me/d5vafth , this is just a chart):typerhappy:
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betaruga Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2015   Artist
Okay, taking a look between the Modern and Classic versions, there is almost no difference except for snout length, which doesn't really disqualify the design as "anthro", which leads me to ask... just, why? Why is that even an issue? 
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Kayshae Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Its what the group wants specifically. They want short snouted Anthro characters in their group, not long snouted ones.
It's not that difficult to understand.
There are loads of groups that accept long snouted Anthro characters just not this one :I
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betaruga Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2015   Artist
Yeah, I get the terms. I just don't get why anybody would.. care enough to distinguish the two when anthros have such a massive variety of features they can take, anyway.
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Brendavid Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Makes sense to me.

Unfortunately, I don't really want to expend the effort to remember what this group will and won't allow as far as something as specific as this goes. I will just submit to groups that I know will be nondiscriminatory of my muzzle lengths.

Good luck on getting people to follow the rules though! That's kind of a tough one.
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SmirkCat Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hm then I think I can't post to the group anymore - my charas have long snouts or no snouts :shrug:
... and what would that be? smirkcat.deviantart.com/galler…
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Kayshae Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Not sure to be honest.
I'm not even an admin of the group any more xD
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SmirkCat Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No prob :3
Oh, ok sorry :XD:
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Respelia Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2014
Why not just call it the "short-snout-anthro" club?  That is much more clear than "modern," which can mean just about anything.
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Kayshae Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Honestly I don't like that term now either...
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JadenWolf Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
And that explains why my med-long characters were not being accepted.... hum...
Nice chart/drawing, btw :D
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Kayshae Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks
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JadenWolf Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You're welcomed :D
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Thesis-D Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, I guess I can't post in this group anymore, then. Most of my OC "furries" would fall into the kemonomimi category. They fall short of being "basic" because they don't have animal noses (anymore). They also don't have any "fur", and instead have the skin color patterns of the animal they are based on.

The best example I've always used for my characters with my watchers is Thundercats. Thundercat looking characters don't seem to have a place in this chart. They're slightly above "human" but below kemonomini, both of which are two levels below what this chart finds acceptable.

At any rate, thank you for posting this! It helps set a standard for the group, which in turn allows the content to be more focused, keeping it on topic.

Funny thing is, though, all I'd have to do for my characters to fall into "Basic" is add back in the black animal nose. Its ironic that how while such a chart seems strict, little things in how you draw the characters can have them fall into different categories entirely. Interesting.
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Kayshae Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah well I see, and thanks I guess!
I'm just glad that people are understanding :)
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Thesis-D Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm understanding at my own expense, in this situation, and it is a bit awkward because I've never been in this situation.

To me, I see the chart as an ultimatum to either draw to conform to the new standard (which I will not do) or leave (which I'm not sure is necessary either). On the other hand, I don't know if I'm a unique case or not, because you've accepted my art here a few times already, and to my knowledge haven't taken it down. Even under the old chart model, my art was accepted, so I'm not sure how to proceed with this new development.

And yes, its important that people understand. I've seen folks get upset over stuff like this, but that's mostly because they take it as a judgment of their art or style, when its not.
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Kayshae Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Its not really a new standard, its the same rules, just made a bit clearer as the old chart did kind of seem a bit... harsh?
However certain art in your gallery looks perfectly acceptable like [link] and [link]
These works are not likely to be accepted however [link] (I couldnt really find any example of Kemonos in your gallery as they mostly look Human to me)
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Thesis-D Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, if that's how you feel about it, then there's reason for me to leave, then. :)

And actually, I'm glad you referenced those two specifically, because they're the only examples I have to give of my current style with this genre, and if you feel they somehow fall into this new chart (I have to admit, I don't see how they do), then it takes the future guess work out of it for me, since I intend to continue drawing them that way.

As for the elf, that doesn't even count, and I wouldn't consider that a furry or anthro anyways, its a completely different genre. I don't get why people want to question whether elves and certain mythical creatures like them are furries....it seems like a world of difference to me. :XD:
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Kayshae Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Ahh I was just confused whether the elf was a Kemono or not :XD:
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Thesis-D Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I see! Also, I made a typo at the beginning of my last message. It should have read "theres no reason to leave, then" but I left out the "no"! Sorry about any confusion! :XD:
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Kayshae Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Its OK :aww:
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aha-mccoy Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2013
well I'm not fan of animal like legs. but sometimes long snouts are cute.
hehe nice chart. pretty cool and instructive.
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Kayshae Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you :)
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aha-mccoy Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2013
welcome!
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ChillyKuma-Kuma Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Classic in my opinion is better then the "Modern" one =w=
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Kayshae Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I've never really been a fan of it because I suck at the angles of the Classic one.
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ChillyKuma-Kuma Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2013  Student Digital Artist
its easy x'D not really difficult, it seems like the modern is just putting the little snout and that's it D'x
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Silver-wolfox Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2013
looks good, although it's allowed, not aloud
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Kayshae Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah, I'll change that ^^;
Thanks!
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Silver-wolfox Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2013
No problemo! It's a pretty clear chart otherwise :D
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Kayshae Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah that's good to hear :D
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SkyMaro Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Do you mean "allowed"?
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